Comments on: Disgraceful, but not suprising. http://westhamprocess.FootballUNITED.com/2009/08/26/disgraceful-but-not-suprising/ Musings in Claret and Blue Fri, 18 Mar 2011 22:24:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://golbox.com?v=3.2.1 By: Boysie http://westhamprocess.FootballUNITED.com/2009/08/26/disgraceful-but-not-suprising/#comment-4203 Boysie Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:23:16 +0000 http://westhamprocess.com/?p=1948#comment-4203 I have been a west ham supporter for 50 years and have seen football violence since the 60,s when liverpool were promoted back to the 1st Div. (blame Liverpool & OMO (soap) Talk of prearranged fights is an absolute nonsense written by morons who never get from behing their screens and go to a game. Th Football league organised the game and set the time for the game not the fans. The police cocked it up and set the battle lines not the fans. Against spurs on sunday there were only about 100 police on duty around the area yet the game went off without any problems. KO time 1.30 pm. On tuesday all the local pubs were open and west ham continued to sell beer in the ground!!DUh. The "pitch invasion" was a farce small kid and old big fat beer bellies wandering over the ground in a meaningless demonstration of What ? No one got within 50 metres of the millwall fans.No players wers attacked (thank god) so where was the itimidation and RIOT. The attack on the stewards/police in the corner at the TB end was handbags.The fans stayed behind the wall all of the time and were not trying to get on the pitch but trying to evade the punches and batons of the stewards and police. This whole charade was just another attempt by the MET police to boost their o/t and get back into football grounds to attack innocent fans. Total score 10 arrests,1 stabbing (kids are stabbing each other every day in london) a RIOT my arse If u want to se organised violence and riots go to the carnival this weekend you wont see the tactical police as we do but silly coppers trying to dance and be politically correct!!!! Using the upper tier would have been the best opti I have been a west ham supporter for 50 years and have seen football violence since the 60,s when liverpool were promoted back to the 1st Div. (blame Liverpool & OMO (soap)
Talk of prearranged fights is an absolute nonsense written by morons who never get from behing their screens and go to a game.
Th Football league organised the game and set the time for the game not the fans. The police cocked it up and set the battle lines not the fans. Against spurs on sunday there were only about 100 police on duty around the area yet the game went off without any problems.
KO time 1.30 pm.
On tuesday all the local pubs were open and west ham continued to sell beer in the ground!!DUh.
The “pitch invasion” was a farce small kid and old big fat beer bellies wandering over the ground in a meaningless demonstration of What ? No one got within 50 metres of the millwall fans.No players wers attacked (thank god) so where was the itimidation and RIOT.
The attack on the stewards/police in the corner at the TB end was handbags.The fans stayed behind the wall all of the time and were not trying to get on the pitch but trying to evade the punches and batons of the stewards and police.
This whole charade was just another attempt by the MET police to boost their o/t and get back into football grounds to attack innocent fans.
Total score 10 arrests,1 stabbing (kids are stabbing each other every day in london) a RIOT my arse
If u want to se organised violence and riots go to the carnival this weekend you wont see the tactical police as we do but silly coppers trying to dance and be politically correct!!!!
Using the upper tier would have been the best opti

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]]> By: Tony Bonds http://westhamprocess.FootballUNITED.com/2009/08/26/disgraceful-but-not-suprising/#comment-4133 Tony Bonds Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:19:36 +0000 http://westhamprocess.com/?p=1948#comment-4133 When you only charge between £10 - £20 for a match ticket especially against Millwall what do you expect? Morons from both sides basically who are not true fans and want to cause trouble will come. No real trouble 4 years ago when we drew 1-1 with Millwall at Upton park in a championship match at normal prices. There is history of violence and two recent films (Green Street for one) didn't help either When you only charge between £10 – £20 for a match ticket especially against Millwall what do you expect? Morons from both sides basically who are not true fans and want to cause trouble will come. No real trouble 4 years ago when we drew 1-1 with Millwall at Upton park in a championship match at normal prices. There is history of violence and two recent films (Green Street for one) didn’t help either

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]]> By: TrevorH http://westhamprocess.FootballUNITED.com/2009/08/26/disgraceful-but-not-suprising/#comment-4120 TrevorH Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:55:17 +0000 http://westhamprocess.com/?p=1948#comment-4120 However well intentioned, I do not see what purpose articles like this achieve less than 24 hours after the game. Let the authorities deal with "What went wrong". I too was at the game and irrespective of what the Millwall manager said, the blame must rest equally with the minority groups of fans from both clubs that were intent on causing trouble. Does anyone really think that extra police and stewards would have stopped the violence inside and outside the ground? Or by putting the Millwall upstairs in the Centenary it would have stopped them throwing seats and bottles? We should not question the policing or stewarding of the game. Nor should the good names of Millwall FC and West Ham FC be dragged through the mud because of mindless violent thugs, the dregs of society, who have no interest at all in football, whose sole intention was to cause chaos at a football match. We must not forget that it was a good game of football, one that Millwall probably deserved to win as they played West Ham off the park for large parts of the game. We must not let the events of last night overshadow the stabbing of Calum Davenport, or the bravery of Jack Collison playing, and playing well, 2 days after the death of his father. Because of the history of the two clubs, this was almost certainly a one-off. It doesn't make it any easier though. However well intentioned, I do not see what purpose articles like this achieve less than 24 hours after the game. Let the authorities deal with “What went wrong”. I too was at the game and irrespective of what the Millwall manager said, the blame must rest equally with the minority groups of fans from both clubs that were intent on causing trouble.

Does anyone really think that extra police and stewards would have stopped the violence inside and outside the ground? Or by putting the Millwall upstairs in the Centenary it would have stopped them throwing seats and bottles?

We should not question the policing or stewarding of the game. Nor should the good names of Millwall FC and West Ham FC be dragged through the mud because of mindless violent thugs, the dregs of society, who have no interest at all in football, whose sole intention was to cause chaos at a football match.

We must not forget that it was a good game of football, one that Millwall probably deserved to win as they played West Ham off the park for large parts of the game. We must not let the events of last night overshadow the stabbing of Calum Davenport, or the bravery of Jack Collison playing, and playing well, 2 days after the death of his father.

Because of the history of the two clubs, this was almost certainly a one-off. It doesn’t make it any easier though.

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