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	<title>The West Ham Process &#187; stoke</title>
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		<title>Stoke a disgrace. Mike Jones awful. FA worse.</title>
		<link>http://westhamprocess.FootballUNITED.com/2011/03/17/stoke-a-disgrace-mike-jones-awful-fa-worse/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sam H</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, apologies for not writing as regularly as usual. I&#8217;ve been working on a new project which you can find at BoleynGround.com. It&#8217;s shaping up to be a historical photo archive of the Boleyn Ground and Upton Park, so if you&#8217;re sitting on any photos you&#8217;re particularly proud of, whatever era, please do [...]]]></description>
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<div class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 340px"><img title="Huth" src="http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/greenstoke.gif" alt="" width="330" height="182" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Watch Huth, #4</p></div>
<p>First of all, apologies for not writing as regularly as usual. I&#8217;ve been working on a new project which you can find at <a title="Photo archive of the Boleyn Ground" href="http://boleynground.com">BoleynGround.com</a>. It&#8217;s shaping up to be a historical photo archive of the Boleyn Ground and Upton Park, so if you&#8217;re sitting on any photos you&#8217;re particularly proud of, whatever era, please do send them in. </em></p>
<p><em>It was the news that Avram has been charged with his comments about the referee, <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=mike+jones+ref&amp;hl=en&amp;prmd=ivnsuo&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbs=isch:1&amp;ei=owGCTdSIJNSbhQe2mNCuBA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=mode_link&amp;ct=mode&amp;cd=2&amp;ved=0CBUQ_AUoAQ&amp;biw=1680&amp;bih=935" target="_blank">Mike Jones</a>, after our disappointing FA Cup clash with Stoke at the weekend, that woke me from my blogging slumber. </em></p>
<p>I recently wrote elsewhere that <a title="Slur Alex" href="http://editor.footballunited.com/2011/03/02/slur-alex-its-a-matter-of-respect/" target="_blank">Slur Alex Ferguson needs to start showing more respect</a> (in light of his outburst at the officials that took charge of their defeat to Chelsea). I still stand by those comments. United expect everything to go their way (Rooney elbow) and when it doesn&#8217;t (Chelsea away) they lose their rag.</p>
<p>The situation with Avram is very different. It is a well known fact that Avram Grant very rarely explodes into a sea of emotion, so well known that it&#8217;s become a matter of genuine frustration for many West Ham fans. It&#8217;s not in his character, it would seem, to make unqualified, unsubstantiated and and unreasonable criticism about the performance of a ref unless it was fully and wholly justified.</p>
<p>Against Stoke it was.</p>
<p>The performance by Mike Jones was as bias and incompetent as I&#8217;ve ever seen. Not that it excuses our own performance on the day, we were poor. It was a disgrace and a full on kick to the nethers for every West Ham fan (4,500) who had spent the money on tickets, petrol, mini-buses, coaches, trains&#8230;whatever means necessary to get there. Ruined entirely by a limp referee who undoubtedly was told to buck up his ideas by Pulis at half-time, after allowing our goal that many believed to be fair and others a handball.</p>
<p>There was no such doubt about the NFL style blocking tactic adopted for Stoke&#8217;s first goal (in fact everything about it was NFL &#8211; long throw &amp; blockers). Mike Jones, it was blatant and you missed it.</p>
<p>There was no such doubt about Etherington&#8217;s dive. He cheated. Mike Jones, you fell for it (I wonder if Matty has paid back that £800K we loaned him to pay of debt?)</p>
<p>There was no such doubt about the intentional foul to haul Hitz out of the wall for their second goal. Mike Jones, it was clear as day and you missed it.</p>
<p>There was no such doubt about the rugby tackle on Tomkins in the Stoke penalty area. Mike Jones, there are no more words.</p>
<p>We were rubbish but Avram, and every fan up there, is fully justified to believe that after that anonymous performance, Mike Jones you&#8217;ve cost us a place in the FA Cup semi-final.</p>
<p>But of course it&#8217;s superb to see a new underdog in the semi-final. It&#8217;s great that Stoke, a team of such footballing pedigree, beauty and honesty, have reached this stage of the competition.</p>
<p>So, how would I plead if I was Avram? Personally it&#8217;s about time that referees were accountable for their behaviour. And, if Avram decides to give the FA both barrels, I&#8217;d be fully behind it. Something needs to change. Or we&#8217;ll see more arrogant refereeing displays as they&#8217;re fully in the knowledge that none of their decisions will come under full and proper scrutiny by anyone other than the fans&#8230;and we all know we mean nothing to the FA. &#8220;You all need to show more respect&#8221;</p>
<p>Give us a reason to.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>Post match exclusive interview with Spector</title>
		<link>http://westhamprocess.FootballUNITED.com/2010/03/27/post-match-exclusive-interview-with-spector/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sam H</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Credit where credits due, Spector had a good game today against Stoke. It doesn&#8217;t of course take anything away from the fact we lost, our 6th on the trot. So briefly, here&#8217;s my post match interview with Spector]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Credit where credits due, Spector had a good game today against Stoke. It doesn&#8217;t of course take anything away from the fact we lost, our 6th on the trot.</p>
<p>So briefly, here&#8217;s my post match interview with Spector</p>
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		<title>West Ham Staff and Supporters message</title>
		<link>http://westhamprocess.FootballUNITED.com/2010/03/25/west-ham-staff-and-supporters-message/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sam H</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[West Ham Staff and Supporters message To our new owners Focus on the task at hand and the next 7 games. Hold those thoughts of the Olympic Stadium, hold back on laying off staff and threats of wage cuts. Hold back on letting the world and his dog know of the state the club is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>West Ham Staff and Supporters message</strong></p>
<p><strong>To our new owners<br />
</strong>Focus  on the task at hand and the next 7 games. Hold those thoughts of the  Olympic Stadium, hold back on laying off staff and threats of wage cuts.<br />
Hold back on letting the world and his dog know of the state the club is  in because lest we forget, &#8220;negativity breeds negativity&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>To  the manager<br />
</strong>You have a talented squad from which to choose your  XI players. Just keep it simple, play players in their favoured  positions and let them show us why they should be pulling on the Claret  and Blue of West Ham United.</p>
<p><strong>To our players<br />
</strong>Play like your livelihoods depended on  winning every game until the end of the season because quite frankly,  with SuGo in charge, THEY DO</p>
<p><strong>To our captain<br />
</strong>Play and  SOUND like one. It seems clear to the supporters that you have not one,  but both eyes on bigger goals. But unless you concentrate on the task at  hand, like the rest of us over the summer you&#8217;ll have both eyes on the  telly</p>
<p><strong>To young master Tomkins<br />
</strong>Get back on the pitch and put the  Wolves game behind you. Show again what a talented and promising footballer you are.</p>
<p><strong>To  the ball boys on Saturday<br />
</strong>Take along a large tub of vaseline and  apply liberally each time you pass the ball, politely, to Mr Delap  (he&#8217;s the one with satellite dishes in place of ears)</p>
<p><strong>To the supporters<br />
</strong>If the players had any doubts about the  passion us supporters have for <span style="text-decoration: underline;">our</span> club, they know now! We&#8217;ve  said our piece, the players and owners have said theirs. Tuesday is now  history.<br />
Supporters; we know our job and no offence SuGo but we don&#8217;t need paper  clappers or kids for a quid to play our part. If we do go a goal down,  don&#8217;t get on the players&#8217; backs, just crank up the volume ala Villa Park  1991 (younger supporters ask your Dad&#8217;s!)</p>
<p>See you all Saturday and COME ON YOU IRONS!!</p>
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		<title>Comparison stats [Part II] &#8211; better goal difference this year</title>
		<link>http://westhamprocess.FootballUNITED.com/2009/11/23/comparison-stats-part-ii-better-goal-difference-this-year/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sam H</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last month I put together a &#8216;take-this-with-a-pinch-of-salt&#8217; comparison piece outlining the head-to-head history of all the sides we had played till that point in the season (HERE) Although, like I say, you do have to take the results with a pinch of salt, it was interesting to see how we usually fair against certain sides. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last month I put together a &#8216;take-this-with-a-pinch-of-salt&#8217; comparison piece outlining the head-to-head history of all the sides we had played till that point in the season (<a href="http://westhamprocess.com/2009/10/12/what-should-have-happened-some-interesting-stats/" target="_blank">HERE</a>) Although, like I say, you do have to take the results with a pinch of salt, it was interesting to see how we usually fair against certain sides. One lesson learned was that we should never expect points against Bolton (although each and every year, without fail, I look at that as potential to gain three points)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve put together a slightly different comparison this time around, highlighting how we fared in the exact same fixtures played this year compared to last:</p>
<h2 class="wp-table-reloaded-table-name-id-1 wp-table-reloaded-table-name">Seaon 08/09 fixtures compared to 09/10</h2>

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		<th class="column-1">Fixture</th><th class="column-2">Last Year</th><th class="column-3">Points</th><th class="column-4">GD +/-</th><th class="column-5">This Year</th><th class="column-6">Points</th><th class="column-7">GD +/-</th>
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		<td class="column-1">Spurs (H)</td><td class="column-2">0-2</td><td class="column-3">0</td><td class="column-4">-2</td><td class="column-5">1-2</td><td class="column-6">0</td><td class="column-7">-1</td>
	</tr>
	<tr class="row-3 odd">
		<td class="column-1">Blackburn (A)</td><td class="column-2">1-1</td><td class="column-3">1</td><td class="column-4">-2</td><td class="column-5">0-0</td><td class="column-6">1</td><td class="column-7">-1</td>
	</tr>
	<tr class="row-4 even">
		<td class="column-1">Wigan (A)</td><td class="column-2">1-0</td><td class="column-3">4</td><td class="column-4">-1</td><td class="column-5">0-1</td><td class="column-6">1</td><td class="column-7">-2</td>
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	<tr class="row-5 odd">
		<td class="column-1">Liverpool (H)</td><td class="column-2">0-3</td><td class="column-3">4</td><td class="column-4">-4</td><td class="column-5">2-3</td><td class="column-6">1</td><td class="column-7">-3</td>
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	<tr class="row-6 even">
		<td class="column-1">Man City (A)</td><td class="column-2">0-3</td><td class="column-3">4</td><td class="column-4">-7</td><td class="column-5">1-3</td><td class="column-6">1</td><td class="column-7">-5</td>
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	<tr class="row-7 odd">
		<td class="column-1">Fulham (H)</td><td class="column-2">3-1</td><td class="column-3">7</td><td class="column-4">-5</td><td class="column-5">2-2</td><td class="column-6">2</td><td class="column-7">-5</td>
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	<tr class="row-8 even">
		<td class="column-1">Stoke (A)</td><td class="column-2">1-0</td><td class="column-3">10</td><td class="column-4">-4</td><td class="column-5">1-2</td><td class="column-6">2</td><td class="column-7">-6</td>
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	<tr class="row-9 odd">
		<td class="column-1">Arsenal (H)</td><td class="column-2">0-2</td><td class="column-3">10</td><td class="column-4">-6</td><td class="column-5">2-2</td><td class="column-6">3</td><td class="column-7">-6</td>
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	<tr class="row-10 even">
		<td class="column-1">Sunderland (A)</td><td class="column-2">1-0</td><td class="column-3">13</td><td class="column-4">-5</td><td class="column-5">2-2</td><td class="column-6">4</td><td class="column-7">-6</td>
	</tr>
	<tr class="row-11 odd">
		<td class="column-1">Villa (H)</td><td class="column-2">0-1</td><td class="column-3">13</td><td class="column-4">-6</td><td class="column-5">2-1</td><td class="column-6">7</td><td class="column-7">-5</td>
	</tr>
	<tr class="row-12 even">
		<td class="column-1">Everton (H)</td><td class="column-2">1-3</td><td class="column-3">13</td><td class="column-4">-8</td><td class="column-5">1-2</td><td class="column-6">7</td><td class="column-7">-6</td>
	</tr>
	<tr class="row-13 odd">
		<td class="column-1">Hull (A)</td><td class="column-2">0-1</td><td class="column-3">13</td><td class="column-4">-9</td><td class="column-5">3-3</td><td class="column-6">8</td><td class="column-7">-6</td>
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	<tr class="row-14 even">
		<td class="column-1"></td><td class="column-2"></td><td class="column-3"></td><td class="column-4"></td><td class="column-5"></td><td class="column-6"></td><td class="column-7"></td>
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	<tr class="row-15 odd">
		<td class="column-1">Totals:</td><td class="column-2">8-17</td><td class="column-3">13</td><td class="column-4">-9</td><td class="column-5">17-23</td><td class="column-6">8</td><td class="column-7">-6</td>
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<p>So from that, a quick few summary points:</p>
<p>- We have scored <strong>9 more goals </strong>compared to last year<br />
- But, <strong>conceded 6 more</strong></p>
<p>- We earned <strong>5 more points </strong>in the corresponding fixtures last year.<br />
- We have seen the same results against <strong>Spurs, Blackburn, Liverpool, Man City and Everton<br />
</strong>- Last year we beat <strong>Wigan, Fulham, Stoke and Sunderland, </strong>whereas this year we only managed <strong>2 points from the same fixtures.<br />
</strong>- We have <strong>improved</strong> on the <strong>Arsenal, Villa and Hull </strong>results compared to last year.</p>
<p>I produce these stats table to simply put the data out there and hopefully make it easier to interpret. My opinion on the whole lot is quite simply this&#8230;our urgency to secure the services of a new striker during the summer has clearly paid off. We&#8217;ve scored significantly more goals. <em>However&#8230;</em>it is obviously been at detriment to our defence (selling Collins was a massive mistake).</p>
<p>I am however confident that once our defence settles into the same four each week for the best part, we will soon see a climb up the table. Although our goal difference is actually <em>better </em>this year we are shipping goals like there&#8217;s no tomorrow. Sort that, and we&#8217;ve got the makings of a side that can still achieve something this year.</p>
<p>Love too know your comments</p>
<p>IRONS</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>Should we sell Ashton? [POLL]</title>
		<link>http://westhamprocess.FootballUNITED.com/2009/07/31/should-we-sell-ashton-poll/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sam H</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The talk of us selling Dean Ashton has been picking up pace recently. Oh the irony. I&#8217;ve been battling with whether or not we should sell him and I&#8217;m sure many of you are still unsure. On one hand we have a top class goalscorer and it would seem silly to sell him considering that&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The talk of us selling Dean Ashton has been picking up pace recently. Oh the irony.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been battling with whether or not we should sell him and I&#8217;m sure many of you are still unsure. On one hand we have a top class goalscorer and it would seem silly to sell him considering that&#8217;s exactly what we are missing at the minute (the Sp*rs game made that all the more evident). On the other hand, he has never played a full season for us and is a liability on the injury front.</p>
<p>Stoke&#8217;s manager Tony Pulis has been reported of saying that Ashton&#8217;s injury record will not put him of signing him for £5m, the same article from the <em>Daily Mail</em> is saying that he is definitely leaving pending us finding a replacement. Make of that what you will. But it does beg the question, &#8220;why would Pulis be happy to resk forking out £5m, yet we seem happy to let him go&#8221;.</p>
<p>Essentially it&#8217;s a gamble on both teams parts and I for one do not want to get to the mid point of next season and find that our gamble of letting him go has severly backfired and that he his banging in the goals for Stoke.</p>
<p>Anyways, I figured a half decent way to get a rough idea of what everyone else is feeling is to roll out a poll&#8230;please vote below, and I&#8217;m also looking forward to reading your comments &#8211; Stoke fans, would you actually be happy with the risk of bringing Ashton&#8217;s injury record on board?</p>
<p>Even now I don&#8217;t know what I would vote.</p>
<p>[poll:4]</p>
<p>IRONS</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>Stoke v West Ham: Free Live Streams</title>
		<link>http://westhamprocess.FootballUNITED.com/2009/05/02/stoke-v-west-ham-free-live-streams/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 11:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Sam H</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Afternoon all, unfortunately looks like we ight have to have a bit of a community effort to find the best streams for the games today. As it stands, I can only find a couple but as per usual I will be over at my streaming page and I&#8217;m sure that closer to kick off we [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Afternoon all, unfortunately looks like we ight have to have a bit of a community effort to find the best streams for the games today. As it stands, I can only find a couple but as per usual I will be over at my <a title="Free West Ham Streams" href="http://onyahead.com/westhamprocess/live-west-ham-streams" target="_blank">streaming page</a> and I&#8217;m sure that closer to kick off we will find a decent one to watch! Just follow the link below:</p>
<p><a title="Stoke v West Ham Free Live Stream" href="http://onyahead.com/westhamprocess/live-west-ham-streams" target="_blank">Stoke v West Ham Free Live Streams</a></p>
<p>It seems like each week I am saying that it&#8217;s another massive game, but this is one of the games that we need to be looking at to take three points from. I&#8217;ve not been particularly good with my predictions this year, but I am going for a <em><strong>1-0 West Ham win </strong>today, but it will be close!</em></p>
<p>IRONS</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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